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Speed, Legacy and the Woman Nobody Missed for Three Years
In this episode, we explore two fascinating documentaries through Caribbean cultural perspectives - "Sprint" on Netflix and "Dreams of a Life" on Amazon Prime - offering unique insights on Olympic track stars and a mysterious woman who died alone in her apartment, undiscovered for three years.
- "Sprint" follows Olympic track stars like Noah Lyles, Sha'Carri Richardson, Shericka Jackson, Kishane Thompson and more preparing for the 2024 Paris Olympics
- "Dreams of a Life" tells the tragic story of Joyce Vincent, found dead in her apartment three years after her death
- Joyce's compartmentalized life resulted in no one person knowing her completely
- Both films explore the contrast between public personas and private realities
Watch "Sprint" on Netflix and "Dreams of a Life" on Amazon Prime.
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All right, everybody. Welcome back to another episode of Reels to the Rhythms, brought to you by Carry On Friends in partnership with Style, hoodie Vibes and Breadfruit Media. And you already know, reels on Rhythms brings you commentary, reviews and perspectives on what's going on in the world of TV, film and concerts bare vibes as only Michaela and I can, and this is all through the lens of Caribbean culture, caribbean American immigrants and first-generation experiences. What is going in my dupes? What is going?
Speaker 2:in, Walk one, Kerry, walk one with the boat with the boat, with the boat, With the boat, and so this episode is a little different, not different, different, different.
Speaker 1:It's different because you're going to talk about something that you watched, something I watched, and for the first time, we didn't see the same thing. So we're not giving reviews or discussions about something we both watch together and, um, you're going to tell me what you're watching, share it with the audience. I'm going to ask a question about what you're watching. I'm going to interrogate you upon what you watch. I'm going to pretend like I'm the hardy-ance, asking questions about what you watch, and you did the same for me. So, yeah, are you ready?
Speaker 2:Yes, yes, so I watched the documentary series Sprint. So there is a season one and a season two. So Sprint follows the athletes that compete in track and field, particularly in the Sprint games for the Olympics in Paris in 2024. So that is what season two covered.
Speaker 2:Season one really gave a leading up and a buildup of like the road to and it really talked about what the preparation was about. So season two was centered around the Paris Olympics and of course, it's really from the perspective of the American teams and their top competitors, which, of course you know, jamaica Afidede. So it includes the men's sprinters and the women. So you have Noah Lyles, sha'carri Richardson, gabby Thomas, you have Sharika Jackson from Jamaica, kishane Thompson, titi Terry, fred Curley and a host of other supporting characters. I think the biggest surprise was around Julie and Alfred's win, and then let's Seal Tobogo, from Botswana, won against Noah Lyles in the 200, which that was his jam and was kind of a big upset.
Speaker 2:So it follows the athletes leading up to, specifically, this particular Olympics. And if you guys don't remember, sharika Jackson and Shelly Ann Frazier-Price dropped out. First Sharika dropped out of the 100 to focus on the 200. And then she ended up not participating in her semis and so they both weren't in the finals. So Jamaica, from a women's perspective, kind of a big upset. We weren't expecting that as fans. However, injuries happen. They didn't. Well, we can get into it in a little bit, but that's essentially what the documentary is about. So it goes through their wins, how they train with their coaches, how they view competition, and it really just documents that that journey, which is exciting to watch. How they train with their coaches, how they view competition, and it really just documents that journey which is exciting to watch. I have an upcoming sprint to myself, so even just raising an athlete, I think it's always interesting to see what you know young players and athletes are really doing to kind of one, set themselves apart and two, compete at such a high level.
Speaker 1:Audience. There's a reason why me a blow down Because I did not want. Let me sip my tea. Let me sip my tea. I did not want to watch this. I had no interest in watching it at all. Mikayla wanted me to watch it. I had no interest in watching it. Well, mikayla, why you didn't want me to watch it? I had no interest in watching it. Well, michaela, why you did want me to watch it. Well, maybe you tell the people then, because Michaela get the word there.
Speaker 2:Kerry, you're such an avid track and field aficionado I can't even say a fan, because you're more than a fan, because you know your things, and it's not just around Olympics, you follow all the world champs, and I mean that is the nature of being jamaican too is like we view football, soccer and cricket and and track and field, as you must know, like those are like the three sports that you know as a country we are very in tune to, even in the wider Caribbean right, those are the sports, and not only that, it's at a world level. So I really kind of just wanted your take. It would have been interesting to kind of hear your POV, especially because you know so much more about track than I do, um, and so that's really why I was going to be completely entertained by your annoyance of the one noah lyles, because everybody is, and I think it's interesting to watch him in this documentary. Otto was on there too like commentating, and so there was somebody else who was a former sprinter who was commenting. They usually do the commentary during the Olympics and a lot of the games, so I thought that their POV was interesting.
Speaker 2:So I felt like they had to have the professional version. Somebody didn't want carry version. Are they, are they?
Speaker 1:critique carry version, go messy at a kind of redeem himself, but for a while me never really rate ato based on his comment in the 2008 beijing olympics when he then this is why you want, because you have to remember beijing olympics and the commentary, because me and I remember all of them something.
Speaker 1:Yeah, you know, when he sided with the, I mean I didn't pay him salary, but he agreed with certain commentators that when Usain went across the finish line and beat Chess how that was disrespectful. I mean I say, listen, we don't know when the tear-off closed after he went across the finish line and the door, it wasn't disrespectful. But because he don't know when they tear off clothes after on the cross finish line and they do all the most, it wasn't disrespectful but because he didn't run through the line. But anyway, I digress, so all right, let's start with season two, when it was a shocker that Sharika never go run. If one of the city race was, Sharika run and get injured me don't know why it was a shocker, Sharika should have been pulled out, but me get it, get injured. I don't know why it was a shocker, Sharika should have been pulled out, but I get it.
Speaker 1:Watching sprint was difficult for me, as you said, as somebody who loves track. Track to me is how basketball is to Americans, because anybody who watched this knows Jamaican culture right. Every school has a sports day, from basic school, which includes elementary school over here, preschool, whatever. All the way up has a sports day. So track is like just part of school culture.
Speaker 2:And for me you think you would have watched it if it were from the perspective of the Caribbean athletes. Absolutely.
Speaker 1:Absolutely. Here's the thing, all right. So you know we talked about it. There's a generation of Jamaicans and Waghanis who don't remember a time when Jamaica was not winning bronze, to the point where she get called bronze queen. I remember 1988 olympic soul, all of them something there. They don't even remember vcb really bringing track. Yeah, yeah, uh, come through. So the 2008 beijing olympics really put jamaica on the map and had the target on the back, and so what happened in the last Olympics was really a wake-up call for fans and the Jamaica Track Athletic Association.
Speaker 1:That won, and I can't take this winning for granted. Like you know, we were chasing, you know, the Americans, let's call it. You know like Tyson Gay was running it. You know Asafa came, call it. You know like Tyson Gay was running it. You know um, asafa came, and you know, anyway, menango, go deep into it. So I think I would have appreciated it more from the Caribbean perspective, because I wasn't surprised Julian was was gonna win either, because if he had followed indoor track, she had really the fastest time and they, they, they mentioned that too yeah, like you're not watching exactly, yeah, then you, you know that she's, she was gonna be a problem problem exactly so by the time everybody's thinking about worlds.
Speaker 1:Worlds is this year right. You would have seen like everybody's just paying attention to the highlight and the marquee games. You have to be paying attention, as you being now a track mom, the the smaller meets leading up to the highlight and the marquee games. You have to be paying attention, as you being now a track mom, the the smaller meets leading up to the bigger games, because you know, unlike any other sport where you can go practice with a team, these mini meets are their practice. They could train, but this is where they go and refine.
Speaker 1:So julianfrin was not a surprise to me at all. She was really in shape as a track person. I was watching. I didn't see Shelly. When I saw Shelly run was at the Jamaica trials and so for me that was alarming.
Speaker 1:I mean, let me tell you, when we go to church and the people in my church and they say oh, you know them good, I mean the line we call God and God said ain't good Me. Hope they say the same line me they get, because my line, don't tell me, said ain't good at all, right, yeah. So I mean, of course it's an American film crew, so you're going to get that perspective. But I really think that you know, over the years the Caribbean's prowess in track has grown. I mean, we had known the Bahamas for being good 200, 400-meter runners. Their program has gone through some shifts because they're not dominating the same way as they used to and I think, getting that perspective I would have want to have seen that, because when a shot of the American perspectives for track, I would have wanted to see the Caribbean perspective honestly and and to understand like what they were going through, because with each couple of years there's a turnover or graduation of athletes because they age Right, and so I wanted to see who are the new and upcoming athletes.
Speaker 1:Guess what? Tobogo. I wasn't surprised at him either. Yeah, because if you don't watch him from when in my under 17, all of them something they're like you know these are not surprises, but I think what I do, enjoying all of this, is like track and field. I get some respect, um, and it's I get the eyes. But, general, I'm trying to think of which track athlete before noah lyles that just like, oh, my god, pump your brakes. Maybe justin gatlin? Not really, um, but I just, I just can't, I'm just like it's too much.
Speaker 2:Yes, and I think he knows he's too much. We saw some of the drama unfold with his girlfriend who is Jamaican, on social media kind of unfolds. And then we also saw how the results played out for both the 100 and the 200. So in the 100, he, he and Kashane were like legit off by like a split?
Speaker 1:Yeah, because Kishane never leaned properly.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah, that's literally why he lost and I think watching it in slow-mo it feels so long, but it's really a short span of time and for someone to get halfway through a hundred meters and and pull out a slight inch of a win because shane was pretty much in the lead, the whole and I think that's maturity, it's maturity to, to, to run all the way through and I keep saying on everybody are you seeing where, when you see in a run in my unfold, in body, just uh, you understand.
Speaker 1:So I I think what I'm curious about is obviously they might follow noah, like, did you get insight as to this persona? You know, which I personally feel like everybody has put on this persona since usain bolt came on the scene, because before that everybody was tough and mean, mugging at the starting line, everybody's just like intimidation. And Bolt came and was just like, yeah, mommy, I go sweep and do all of the dancing, and then everybody just started coming on with the starting line antics. So I'm curious if you got to see any insight as to this persona that he does at the start.
Speaker 2:I think it's part a shield and part, you know, like the manifestation of being this big personality that people are attracted to, I think. I think people just find it hard because he doesn't come off as a kind and genuine person. He just comes off as, in my opinion, he just comes. He doesn't come off as like a genuine. So like the moments that you saw with Usain dapping up, you know, the water person or the person behind his blocks, the kid, you know, like being jovial is part of his personality.
Speaker 2:I feel like Noah kind of uses this braggadocious, energetic burst. It's almost like a shield of who he is, you know, and I also think he came up and had a lot of challenges. So it's kind of like this armor that he puts on and it's also probably an intimidation tactic for others and I think his peers are very aware of it. But it's still this bottle of energy to manage. That's right next to you because you don't really know what. But also he talks a good game and for the most part he backs it up. So it's not like he's not able to deliver on his personality. I think, you know, in in America I don't think sprinting is as big as it is in Jamaica.
Speaker 2:And so like where our sprinters are seen, like how football players and basketball players are seen here. Sprinters don't necessarily get the same amount of accolades here in the States and I think that that's what he's trying to bring to the sport itself. But there's just an element of personality missing and I don't know that it's not his fault, because that's just his persona. I think Usain Bolt just naturally comes off as a personable figurehead for the sport. Even as time has passed, I feel like I heard Usain Bolt. I mean, of course he has the record, so it's not like anyone has broken it but his name was in the press for a much longer news cycle and it kept being in the news cycle for all the things that he was doing. Those things really came natural to him.
Speaker 2:I think the way we see Noah come off in interviews, it just kind of is just a little put off and people would be more put off if he's trying to be like a spokesperson, somebody that kids look up to. I don't really get. I don't really see that, um, if that, if that is what he's going for. But um, it feels more centered around self than it is around the sport, if you will. I think he lacks camaraderie with his peers, where I think that there is camaraderie when they're not competing, and he's not part of that circle.
Speaker 2:What did it say At least that's the energy I get, but I mean it was, it was interesting, like I don't necessarily fault him or agree, or like I'm just like okay, whatever makes you perform your best, it's just not my cup of tea.
Speaker 1:What about the women? How did?
Speaker 2:it. The women I really really enjoyed did it the women I really really enjoyed. Um, I really enjoyed getting to know um Shakiri and her teammates that she trains with, so I didn't realize that she TT and um, the one that just did.
Speaker 1:Uh, melissa um Melissa.
Speaker 2:I didn't realize that they trained together under the same coach and so even that, I think what you start to realize is they're really competitors, even though they're training with the same coach, but they're really competing against one another. But they find this beautiful balance of encouraging each other as well as being focused on their specific game, and I think that the coach really shines in his support of them, differently, but similarly, if that makes sense. So he knows what each individual athlete needs and he coaches to them in the way that they need to be coached, but he delivers the same amount of empathy and impact to each one of them and I think that that's interesting and I think we'll see more because they're so young. And then Gabby is like such a ball of fun, energy in terms of I didn't realize you know that she started running track and field when she was in college. You know she has this very esteemed collegiate career that she does post graduation and like managing to compete and have her own career as well as compete at the Olympics at her level, I think is very commendable.
Speaker 2:And then Julie and Alfred I mean she's just such a dominant force. It was just a beautiful way to see her come to life. If it makes sense. Definitely wanted to see more from Sharika and Shelly, especially because you know Shelly's the mommy rocket and she's on her way out, so we didn't get to hear too much from her.
Speaker 1:I was just about to say, which is why it's really, you know, a documentary from the perspective of the Caribbean athletes would have been better because, again, you know, and I understood it, I watch, you know, the one with the basketball version of this right, and it's really an American film crew and it's going to focus on the American players, which is fine. So, which is why I would have wanted to see something that focuses on the Caribbean athletes and, you know, with the Caribbean athletes, you have athletes from different Caribbean countries going to another country. For instance, one year I can't remember his name Daniel something he's from Antigua and Barbuda, but he runs to Antigua and Barbuda but he trains in Jamaica with MVP. So there's a lot of that happening and it would be great just to see it. I mean, julianne Alfred you know many people didn't realize that she went to high school in Jamaica and, you know, trained. So you know, like getting those stories is kind of what I would have loved to see.
Speaker 2:But yeah, you got to definitely see pieces of it. I was surprised that they didn't focus more on Sha'Carri Richardson, because as much as Noah Lyles was this big, I feel like Sha'Carri was really the story. She was the dynamic personality, this young, energetic part of the women in sports movement. She had such a role than she did in the second season, but it might have been because she wasn't able to pull out the win. They focused maybe in the editing room they focused more on the athletes that won and they probably shot more of everybody.
Speaker 2:And then, because she didn't pull out the win, you know, they kind of re shifted, shifted some of that focus a bit, um, but I, I found that the women's story was so much more intriguing because Fred Curley's story was kind of the same from this first he was, you know, trying to, you know, almost like make a comeback. But there was just so much focus on noah more than um, I would have anticipated. I, I love that we got to know more about oblique and and and kishane, but they really did focus on kishane and and noah's rivalry. It wasn't that wasn't.
Speaker 2:Really it wasn't, but to me, I think, to be honest, it wasn't even a rivalry. There was more of a rivalry between the American athletes and Noah.
Speaker 1:Yeah, because Kenny Bednarik was kind of complaining. Yes, anyway.
Speaker 2:Yes, and Coleman, who also didn't make it.
Speaker 1:And Curly Curly Coleman, all of them, yeah.
Speaker 2:Yeah, so it was more focused on them. Shane was kind of this one that they didn't see coming, so it was like a lot of surprises, I guess from a sprinting perspective. But it was good. I liked seeing the behind-the-scenes stories and, you know, would love to see more. I'm sure hopefully they're going to do something for the next Olympics. But yes, I will watch N'Gida Rondon.
Speaker 1:Yeah, because I'm going to watch it.
Speaker 2:I'm going to try Tell me about Dreams of a Life. I know I tried to watch it. However, you know you got to fill me in All right.
Speaker 1:So Dreams of a Life my co-workers told me about it and it's on Prime and there is a. It was a small fee, it was $5.99. I was like, ok, fine, I guess I could pay this. But when I went to go watch it it said, oh, you can watch this for free, but if you start you have 48 hours to finish. So I was like, all right, so I watched it.
Speaker 1:So Dreams of a Life is a story about Joyce Vincent. She's born in the UK to Caribbean parents. I believe her parents are from Grenada and the story opens because police they basically kicked down the door to her apartment because she was 24,000 pounds in arrears for rent and so first of all I was shocked. I was like 24,000 pounds as I went in my kick down the door. But unfortunately, when they kicked down the door and broke into the house, they found her skeleton on the floor and the TV was still on and they determined that she's been dead for three years.
Speaker 1:I am like shocked because I'm like, first of all, if that went up in America three years, no light bill, no pay, no rent, no pay they would have been cut off. I learned at the end of the documentary is like she was in I can't remember what they call it, the british word for it but she was like in an efficiency, like a one room and it was kind of like a section eight. So part of the rent was being paid by the government, um, and so she had another half to pay, so they were getting some money, just not all the money, which is why they didn't go in before that. And so, um, apparently she had four sisters and allegedly no one reported her missing. And when it was reported, yeah, three years sisters live in what?
Speaker 1:let me tell her this story now. So, um, apparently, when they reported it in the newspaper, um, even when, when her name was published in a newspaper, people who knew her didn't equate this thing to her. Um, because they were just like, this can't be the same, joyce. And so an ex-boyfriend reached out, um, because the the person who filmed the documentary took out an ad and asked if anybody basically knew her, and he said, let me just call and find out. And when he found out that she was dead, and how she was dead, like christmas for three years, you know, they were all shocked. There's so much. So me stop this. So I see if you have questions, because there's a lot.
Speaker 2:Well, how did she?
Speaker 1:die. They couldn't do. They couldn't do an autopsy because basically they said she melted into the carpet.
Speaker 2:Max cover. Because, it's like a scary movie.
Speaker 1:No, because, remember you know, there's nothing to determine cause of death, because by the time they go there, it's skeleton. She's fully decayed, so she's decayed into the carpet. Now the first question Okay, okay, all right To Jamaica and ask the question. Nobody smell that. So apparently the building was next to this other place that always smell and so they assumed that it was this other place. So we said the person downstairs never smell rottenness come from upstairs or something.
Speaker 2:Yes.
Speaker 1:They dismissed the smell as whatever, nobody know, you're the TV on. Apparently they're just the conditions of where the building was. It was on a busy them. Yeah, tv was still on.
Speaker 2:And she had no coworkers, no people.
Speaker 1:So what about her friends and family? They didn't report her missing. Oh, still on. And she had no co-workers, no people. So what about her friends and family?
Speaker 2:They didn't report her missing.
Speaker 1:Hold on, hold on, so me get to the pot next. Yeah, all right. So she had a couple boyfriends, right, but nobody really knew anything about her life. She did a good job of segmenting and fragmenting her life and they just didn't touch. So she had a couple of boyfriends and a couple of friends and they will be dating and they've none of them ever met anyone in our family, none of them. And so, um, she's, he's. He said she never. That's normal. She never really talked about her family and the people in her work world and her personal life and her family just did not intersect. Her co-workers didn't suspect she was dating, but all of them said she was beautiful. So she's a Douglas. You know her mom's indian, her father's black, so she has the the long black curly hair and everyone said she was beautiful and one guy was like, oh, she had some brotopsy. He used that word brotopsy.
Speaker 1:Yes, yes, that her mom taught her elocution, you know, for walk and speak properly. So they all had an assumption about her life. Her mom died very young. I think her mom went into the hospital for some surgery but the mom did not make it out and she's the youngest of the four sisters. But because she was so beautiful, there were times that she just switched jobs because, like somebody said, this guy at her her job, like they wanted her so much and they had to have her.
Speaker 1:Like it bordered on sexual harassment but instead of report it right, instead of report it, she just quit the job and she just kept moving to the point where she did there with one guy and the guy bred you like her, to the point that, indeed, almost who are kisser and the boyfriend like to them. She was that attractive. Yeah, um, the guy that she was dating is this white guy and, um, you know, she, she, she wanted to get married and he said no and I guess it's because his father was like, um, I can't remember his name, like he says, simon, is the girl that you're dating a Negro or something like that, like she, black or something. And he was like, yeah, I guess I didn't think about getting married because, you know, being half cast is, you know, and I was like half cast, so you know, you have all of that. Then she was dating this guy called Alistair. I guess he was a producer, I feel like that name is familiar Alistair.
Speaker 1:Alistair is a very Caribbean-ish name, right? So she was dating Alistair. The one Black guy she was dating, jimmy Cliff, would have gone over to Alistair's house and one weekend Jimmy Cliff must have went over there and she stopped chatting up with Jimmy Cliff. Gil, scott Heron, would I go over there? Betty Wright loved her, thought she was wild. She'd be on the phone.
Speaker 1:I talked to Isaac he is a 45 minutes, all of these things and somebody said she was like a chameleon, like when, when she dated somebody you know, like you know whole in a modern day, then what I call it love bombing. I don't even think it was love bombing, but when she was dating this guy she embedded herself into their world and to the point that they were so glad that she was giving them all this attention. She was consumed in their world that they barely asked her questions about her life. I think that was intentional, right. Like she embed ourselves to the point where everybody was just they didn't even think, like they thought about it. But there's, they were so consumed with her like, oh my god, she's, she loves me and she's in every part of my life.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:You know, so me stop there. Any other question you ask Because, trust me, this blew my mind.
Speaker 2:So you never touched on the sister.
Speaker 1:Her sister's never heard from her either. So Alistair at the end said that we could judge her sisters and her family all we want, but he said that I mean even though she's dead, joyce had to take responsibility for not having a relationship with her family and keeping in touch with her family or one in her family to to know where she is.
Speaker 2:So what I learned is maybe it's a life that she wanted to get away from. She just wanted. We don't know.
Speaker 1:We don't know, because at the end we learned that her sisters were sending letters to her last known address, writing her, but she never responded. So they assumed that she wanted nothing to do with them. But all this time she's dead. Yeah, right, and the sisters had asked the filmmaker to not do this documentary, but the filmmaker did it anyway. Yeah, they can't even suspect foul play. They don't think it's foul play.
Speaker 2:So why did the documentary, the filmmaker, why did they choose?
Speaker 1:to do a story.
Speaker 1:They thought it was fascinating that this person could have been dead for three years. Her life was really peculiar. She was a beautiful woman. No one knew much about her, she was almost like an enigma, and because of that they found the story fascinating and they were just like how could someone just slip into oblivion and no one miss her or report her missing? And if it weren't for 24 000 pounds in arrears on rent, they they wouldn't have kicked down the door how long. Who knows how long she should. She would have been gone without anybody really paying attention to her body or that she was missing.
Speaker 2:So how did it end?
Speaker 1:Like what is the like so her family doesn't show up in there. They basically interviewed the main boyfriend that she had for a while.
Speaker 1:The one that called the ad. Yeah, on and off and she basically a bone thrown and a got different people yard for live and all these things. So when she was dating Alistair, when Nelson Mandela came out, he was in the UK and because of Alistair and his connection they went to some event where Nelson Mandela was and Alistair was like I've wanted to meet Nelson Mandela all my life. And then Joyce come and say guess who I just met? And he said who? Nelson Mandela. And he was like that was just typical Joyce, like she go in our room and she can meet people because you know, they said she's just that beautiful.
Speaker 1:And at the end it shows the video where Nelson Mandela is in a room and there she was, at the back of the room and that's the only video of her and, yes, the only video of her alive. And then there was this one picture that they constantly use. But that's kind of where it was ended and people were thinking like in this world, how people can be isolated and alone. And I mean she died in the early 2000s, so she would have been like 50 odd now, but it was just wild.
Speaker 2:That is so interesting. It sounds like it could be turned into a book or a Lifetime movie. I would assume that the family became aware of all this information through the documentary, before the documentary, because before it came out yeah, because eventually they they knew, but they just they don't want to talk about it yeah, yeah, yeah, and you can't blame them yeah, I mean, like when you first watch it you're like where her family blah, blah, blah.
Speaker 1:But, like alistair said, like you can't really blame her family. She, she was intentional in the way that she divvied up her life and she didn't communicate. Like when you think about it, michaela, like she's there with one guy for over two years, like how are you there with somebody for two years and you've never met their parents or a sibling? And you know that they have a sibling? Yeah, yeah, right. And then apparently she told the co-workers that they have a sibling. Yeah, yeah, right. And then apparently she told the coworkers that her father had died and the filmmaker showed them that her father was still alive. The father died a year after she died. Oh, okay.
Speaker 2:So they were also surprised about how she kind of lied about aspects of her life yeah, well, it sounds like she kind of just became who she wanted to be in the presence of those she wanted to be with yep, and so keeping up with that lifestyle didn't allow for her family to kind of permeate that. I mean, it's such an interesting story, um, but I guess it's not surprising. But you also want to know more about who she is and her upbringing, which I think the family could have given a little bit more insight on. But maybe there's stuff there that they really don't want to talk about.
Speaker 1:I think they wanted to keep it private there were some things that the filmmaker alluded to, that her father, after the mother died, the father must have took up with young girls or whatever.
Speaker 2:And she wasn't happy about that.
Speaker 1:That's. We don't know if that is true, but they assume that her mother's death had a big impact on her because she was so young and her older sisters really raised her.
Speaker 1:Yeah, at one point she wanted to sing. So they have a recording of her with her demo or talking or something. So it was just so. It was just. Yeah, it was, it was. She really felt like an enigma and I can see why the person they did this film, because they're like, who is this? You're trying to piece together someone's life, even after people have spent time with her yeah, they, you know. She don't really know her. Yes, so how, she ended up in what they call a bed set in UK which is like a one room. Apparently she was in a a domestic violence, a women's shelter because of some partner she had. So it wasn't alistair and it wasn't the other guy who had called the filmmaker. Um, that she, she probably got it physically abused and the co-workers or somebody said they wouldn't be surprised because they I'm not saying she was ugly, but they all said she had a beauty that made men go crazy and I'm like what kind of woman them money to see to go crazy?
Speaker 2:that's like how moved Martha was when she kissed. Why are you?
Speaker 1:shading.
Speaker 2:Martha, I mean, it must have just been. You know that beautiful, you know.
Speaker 1:So yeah, I mean, I've seen the picture and she's beautiful, but it's just like I don't know what would cause these people to just see her and just say, like I need, I want you and you know, like you know, I'm unhungry.
Speaker 2:Like she had some sort of spell on them.
Speaker 1:Yeah, that's how the boyfriend friends. Because when the boyfriend, the first guy, the white guy who was just dating, when his friends saw her, they were like shocked because they're an odd peer. They're like who is she? You know it's that question. Yeah, so you know it was. It was just fascinating to me. So I would recommend people watching it. Watch out for when Amazon again put it on for free, or if you want to pay the $4.99 or the $3.99, I can't remember, or the 399.
Speaker 2:I can't remember. That's not a bad price, yeah, to support.
Speaker 1:I thought it was interesting and you know it was just, it was peculiar. So yeah, that's what I watched.
Speaker 1:I think my takeaway is not to take for granted that the relationship I have with my family and friends everybody has a similar relationship, yeah, and I think now, in the age of social media, where people feel like, oh, I could go on Instagram or Facebook and see Mikaela, I'm like that is not the same as connection. I mean back then is not the way it is now. But we cannot downplay the importance of meaningful connections, even if it's with one or two people, where you can meet them in person and just kind of connect and not be superficial. And I think that was a takeaway. Like I can't take for granted these relationships that I have.
Speaker 1:That are not based with people on social media. You know, even my coworkers, like you, can't take those relationships for granted because, again, you spend so much time with your co-workers. You know her co-workers were filling in parts of her life. That the other friend and what she did, I wouldn't know. Yeah, yeah very interesting.
Speaker 2:So that was a dreams of a life, of a life and sprint.
Speaker 1:Yeah, sprint is on um net Netflix, dreams of a Life is on Amazon Prime, and I think it's worth a watch. So, yeah, that's it. That is it, and until next time, look more, walk. Good, all these things bye guys.
